What Vox missed about sanctuary cities

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Flabby PigLegs says:

Didn't the federal gov stop funding for segregated public schools or am I crazy?

WOOKIEEWARRIOR says:

One LA gang is not enough evidence to represent the entire US population.

Jack McCutchin says:

so glad I watched this video. After watching Vox's video this was in the suggested. I'm working on educating myself more in politics in general and watching this video just opened up my eyes so much. certain things in the Vox video just went completely over my head until you pointed out the holes in them.

Outa Sync says:

If your asking for donations to produce more ORIGINALS then why not come up with your own ORIGINAL story line and present your ORIGINAL video presenting your side of this topic without reference to VOX's video? Oh yeah you have an agenda too. Your video seemed to contain just as many generalizations and half truths as the "other" video and only added "it is against the law" which you could have displayed for 20 seconds and have done with it thereby saving me me 7 1/2 minutes of my time.

Dean Pruit says:

This is what you haft to hate. Some video wants to call out a liberal pundit and they complain about how partisan said video is and all they do is give you partisan conservative reasons. Christ this stupid video doesn't give you any real facts, it gives you opinions. There is no other reason for sanctuary cites than making the job of the police easier. The video basically argues the minutia of legalisms. It doesn't provide any other reason for sanctuary cites. As well for all the stink blown about evil immigrant gangs the vast majority of immigrants are not like that at all. In fact what about the litany of (more than one unlike the ones in the video) statistics that show immigrants commit less crimes per capita than Americans do?

Mari says:

I can't decide what's worse about this video the hypocrisy or the racism fueled inaccuracy. As a Dreamer, I can't begin to explain how awful it is to watch this video. It leads you to believe that it will be informative but this is all just hurtful opinions. It's like listening to a 12 year old rebuttle. Not putting forth any new or valid information. All this guy did was flash *illegal immigrants on the screen and call good hardworking people "illegals." I want this man to feel how degrading and hurtful words can be but I sincerely hope he never does. I get what you're arguing, I don't agree but I really do get your where you're coming from, the problem is you presented it so poorly that it just seems like you wanted to be hateful and cruel with no foundation of logic or argument. You're not putting forth thought provoking content, you're nothing more than a bully.

Drake Koefoed says:

The court's reading of the 10th amendment says something that is not in amd 10

Tony Toledo says:

What could possibly go wrong with generalizing a group of people as criminals who only want to hurt our society?

Tony Toledo says:

Why can't you just generalize a group of people all as criminals? What could possibly go wrong?

Tony Toledo says:

What's so bad about labeling a marginalized group with more to lose than citizens as criminals? What could possibly be wrong about that? They literally only come here to commit crime. Therefor they are all criminals, every single last one of them and they should not be viewed as people, but rather a plague on our society.

Tony Toledo says:

Yes, you are right. All illegals come here to do is commit crime. Rapist, murderers, and narcotic traffickers. When will the left wake up and see these illegals only came here to commit crimes against Americans. They are not here to seek a better life for themselves and their families. It's all about the crimes, baby.

Arianna Sims says:

can we not call people "illegals?" jesus christ

Jayesh Seebaluck says:

fun fact; all American are illegal immigrants.

Scottish Independence says:

Regarding the remainder of your video, most of the intro was essentially repeating how the judiciary branch works with jargon added (to little accurate effect, if I do say so), to try and convince your viewers to your sincerity. Much of the prior and latter parts of the video skimmed over Vox' explanation without clearly stating that nor acknowledging the levels of government can impact on the outcome of policing, as their example of a Texas State Governor did so, and as explained above, does put the police in a situation of choosing between government and financial support or a much safer city – which is a catch-22, as without funding results in less enforcement and support, and thus a less safe city; or choosing to go for funding and enforcement, isolating communities causing more unreported crimes and more criminals to spawn. Whilst your statement of "a lawless nation South of the border" begs the question of which nation; given you've referred to Mexicans in particular outwith Central America, would insinuate this is Mexico which is not only misleading propaganda but is very much an incorrect perspective, especially when you try and act as if its millions of illegals coming from Mexico.

So all and all; Vox explanation wasn't great, but it did the job – your counter arguments were more so personal and based on your own logic and backing it up with a quote, a survey (which isn't a survey of 60,000 but merely a proportion and may not, especially under those circumstances, be very accurate) and a police estimate which again, is an estimate. You ignored many of the factors I've pointed out, amongst many others I'm sure that other commenters have picked up on – and essentially tried to spin it to support Trump's decisions and attacks "sanctuary cities".

And before you ask, I despise Hillary with a passion and Vox are very biased against Trump, as shown by their attack on him at the end of the video. But your coverage on what Vox missed out or got wrong, is merely just a rant about how your opinion is right, despite applying facts, logic and several other factors.

Scottish Independence says:

Here's a few things I'd like to pick up on:

4:48 To say that the illegal immigrant community somehow only sees and reports crimes related to the illegal immigrant community is as misleading as when Vox referred to all immigrants when you yourself corrected it. If American enforcement should focus on American citizens, then surely they should have the trust of all members of the community to protect said American citizens. If a community is feeling ostracised and isolated from the society, then they're more likely to become detached – a prime example of this is the demonisation of the Muslim community by the far right; which causes some Muslims to turn to fundamentalism and extremism, and rather than other Muslims reporting this, rather remaining silent as to not be ignored by the police (as many Muslims including the Imam, from the Mosque that the Manchester Bomber had attended and been banned from – for being an extremist if I may add, had done so and were ignored) and potentially risk being threatened or worse by the extremist/fundamentalist. So this entire argument, from my perspective, is flawed and misleading.

Going from the perspective that Illegal Immigrants are more likely to commit crimes is both misleading true but not entirely false either. It's true to say that illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crimes depending on their circumstances. Let's take a look at the migrant crisis in Europe: the title in itself is very misleading as it's actually a crisis of refugees and illegals, but to explain in the simplest way possible to prevent from being a tl;dr – the refugees from Syria, Iraq and parts of Iran (Kurds) are not truly an issue, most of them agree with and embrace Western Culture, like Iran did prior to the 1979 revolution which toppled the western government (although not exactly as beneficial as Attatürk in Turkey) and replaced it with an Islamist Shia Government to the dismay of many of its citizens including Shias. The problem comes in from two areas, African Refugees & Illegals and ME Fundamentalists. Let's start with the easiest group: ME fundamentalists – these are the groups of people that Europeans are ACTUALLY concerned about, and this is what people talk about with Turkey blackmailing the EU, because they're not screening the refugees for fundamentalists and just funnelling everyone into Europe, especially Greece (which this is the sole reason Greece has not left the EuroZone, in case you're wondering, they will leave once the crisis has ended and no longer need support to deal with the refugees and a armed and heavily regulated border – which for those Conservatives who are now confused, the EU does actually have exterior borders, just not internal borders between Schengen members therefore you can go from Poland to Lithuania without any border checks, but you would have 2 border checks if you were to go via Kaliningrad or Belarus). These fundamentalists are the ones who aim to turn Muslims who already are living in the EU and Europe as well as refugees, and the grouping by the far right, especially grouping the Syrian and Iraqi refugees with these fundamentalists, don't help in the slightest. They are also the one who support implementing Sharia into Law (Sharia is not Sharia Law; Sharia is a way of life, such as Buddhism, which Muslims, depending on the sect, choose to follow – in some countries, such as Saudi Arabia, Sharia is a part of law, hence the confusion that people have), forcing women to wear coverings, the discrimination of infidels, such as Zoroastrians (in Iran) among much more. The second group is one people don't really think about, African refugees and illegals. Many of these come from CAR, DRC, Somalia, Sudan and with the extra exception of Yemen, where refugees escape via Africa, rather than risk execution in Saudi Arabia. With the exception of CAR (French), these refugees come from countries where European Languages aren't really spoken among the people, and with poor infrastructure, being uneducated and coming from a VERY different outlook on life and customs; many will arrive in Europe via Morocco (also blackmailing the EU with refugees, but in this case is regarding its relationship with Sweden [too long to explain] and sovereignty and recognition of Western Sahara), will not know where they are, will not have skills for a job, will not speak nor understand the language and people around them and thus will group and stick together, which will result in committing crimes, mainly to get money and food to survive, and thus will result in gangs forming. If there was even a lick of integration plans and support, much of this would not be happening, so we can thank Morocco and Turkey for this. I understand this was a very long explanation, but I hope this puts into perspective 3 different groups, one which is grouped with others and generally does nothing, one which doesn't intend to do bad but inevitably does due to certain situations, and another which does intend to do bad and all groups recognise their instability and inability to integrate. The logic can be applied to illegals in the US; but if we also look at statistics, which according to Business Insider (feel free to claim it's a biased or non-credible source – if you think it is anyway) apart from Drug Trafficking, Native-Born and Legal Immigrants are more likely to commit crimes on average with respect to their groups' size than Illegals. Whilst immigrants as a whole make up a far smaller percentage of incarcerated person's respectively, meaning when it comes to tax payers money and American safety, illegals cost far less and are much safer in average than native born, despite being in a disadvantaged situation, for the most part.

So putting all this together, I entirely disagree with that point you made that illegals cost Americans tax payers, are more likely to commit crimes and only look out for the illegal community – and funnily enough, they still pay taxes.

What if? says:

"protect Americans" or protect the public? so tourist should watch out?

What if? says:

Vox did a great job

Aldwin Leguin says:

Talk slower please.

yanis japal says:

I saw your video, liked the title, instantly subscribed. Then you had to go and introduce yourself by insulting the person, or this case channel making the argument. If you want to discuss and challenge arguments then thats fine, don't insult the person making the argument. Instantly unsubbed. Thats the problem you have dude, you might make decent points but you are unable to discuss rationally. You can do better dude.

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